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Thomas Akras -ATCC-: a modern art museum I like.

Robert Poole: Thank you very much. I appreciate the fact that you’re appreciating my artistic aesthetic.

Elizabeth Buck: 

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: very much, so Very much so we got I think about a minute left.

Robert Poole: James good to see you again, brother.

James E. Hock Jr -State Police-: same Happy to be seen.

Robert Poole: Barbara Elizabeth Allen, it’s always good to see you guys.

Elizabeth Buck: Yes, there…

Alan Silverstein: You do Robert.

Elizabeth Buck: Agreed it’s good to be seen.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: right

Alan Silverstein: Okay, it is three o’clock pm. I’m gonna open the meeting of the Alcohol Tobacco and cannabis commission. And first thing we’re going to do is a roll call. So we have commissioner buck. Okay Vice chair.

Alan Silverstein: Barbara wall We have secretary,…

Barbara a: I’m here.

Alan Silverstein: Robert Poole. And myself Alan Silverstein as chairman Nicole a meeting to order. I need a motion for approval of the May 16th 2024 meeting minutes.

Barbara a: some

Elizabeth Buck: second

Robert Poole: I’ll second.

Alan Silverstein: okay, all those in favor signify by saying I post same sign the ice habit,…

Elizabeth Buck: I

Alan Silverstein: Mr. Actress is going to be stepping in for our executive director. And so I’m going to start off with the enforcement activity.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Thank you very much, Mr. Chair and good afternoon to all the Commissioners as the chairman said I’m stepping up for Jeff Kelly, but those are shoes. I could never fill. So hopefully I’ll do his shoes some justice. We’ll start with the enforcement activity in between May 16th. Our last meeting and June 19th. Our field operations Bureau conducted 372. Tobacco and cannabis inspections. There were 233 alcohol inspections and 47 cannabis advisories issued and just as a side note with those advisories you recall this was a document that we created. essentially just text back in November to advise individuals about the Cannabis reformat passage and subsequent lawsuit actually now have a one-pager that we just got printed up and it came back to us, either he was

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Today or Tuesday, which is a nice glossy document. It’s an easy to read one pager. We’re going to be posting that on our website. I’ll make sure I email all the Commissioners that they have a copy of it, but we’re going to be actually giving out that one page which is easy to read has accessible information. There’s actually a QR code on the document that you can scan and get the actual advisory. So we think it’s much more user friendly and just a better way of getting out that information. I’m going to be giving you a time frame and I see here on my document. It’s from February through April 17th. These are twenty there were 24 reportable incidents and I’d say when you hear these numbers.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: You can really tell the impact of The Hires that we’ve had over the last six months or so and our field operations. Bureau is really getting out there. There were 113,758 sticks of OTP which yields a tax loss of approximately 77,720.98. There were 2,524 packs of cigarettes that were seized yielding a tax laws of 4,525 and 61 containers of distilled spirits to just give you a sense of the breath and in terms of our agent to operate between Oakland and Ocean City. These incidents took place in 10 counties Allegheny and Arundel Baltimore City caliber County Dorchester County Frederick County Harford County George’s County Washington County will comical County. So we are everywhere in the state of Maryland doing this en.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Work so just very excited about the work that we’re doing unless anybody has any questions. I’m going to go on to our next subject, which is HR and Staffing.

Alan Silverstein: Please let’s note that commissioner. Morrissette has joined us.

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Thomas Akras -ATCC-: For the record. Thank you, Mr. Chair, hrn Staffing. We do have some open positions within our agency. The first is the regulatory research section manager. This position was previously occupied by Andrew Waters when he became the assistant director this position opened up we are currently now advertising for the position. The application period has closed the applications are being reviewed and we’re going to be conducting phone interviews and in person interviews in the next couple of weeks the idea being we are looking to hire in July, so we’re moving pretty quickly.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: There were two licensing specialist positions that opened up and the application process for these positions closed maybe about two to three weeks ago even today agents are finishing up the first round of phone interviews. There will be in-person interviews in the coming week or so. Again, we’re looking to hire this position in July of 2024. So really excited we’re trying to move quickly, we here at the atcc really want to get quality employees to come on board as soon as possible really don’t like having open vacancies, and we’ve been lucky enough to

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Over the last year to really fill our vacancies. We’re almost down to zero at the beginning of this year. So we really want to get to that zero number moving forward. we do have a presentation I’m going to give a quick recap how to slide show of some of the laws that pass during this General Assembly session that are applicable to the Alcohol Tobacco Canada’s commission and we can cue that up where I’ve got Jessica who will queue up the PowerPoint anybody have any questions about those matters before I move. to the 2024 General Assembly recap

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Okay, great.

Jessica Honeycutt -ATCC-: I’m coming. Sorry.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: No problem at all, Jessica. Thank you.

Jessica Honeycutt -ATCC-: Can you see it now? I just had to turn on my camera.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Yep, no problem are very can. See that just quickly move through these PowerPoint slides want to go to the first slide. It was very busy session. We’re only going to cover the Statewide legislation that was passed this year that affects Alcohol Tobacco. We’ll do some touches on cannabis as always the alcohol bills. There are a lot of alcohol bills that are introduced every year. This year was no different. They’re about 50 to 60 alcoholic beverage bills that we’re introduced but we’re only going to talk about four or five because these are the Statewide bills that are really within our Authority and control the first but this was a Statewide House Bill 808. They’re already heard of doordash or instacart or things of that nature. This was a bill that authorizes local jurisdictions, not the atcc but local jurisdictions to pass rules and regulations that will allow third party contract.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Think doordash think instacart think GrubHub to contract with retailers. Within that jurisdiction to conduct deliveries on behalf of retailers.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Only within that jurisdiction so if I’m Joe’s liquor store in Baltimore County, I can contract with doordash and they could only deliver in Baltimore County. this is only allowed if the county opts in to allowing for local delivery. This doesn’t mandate counties to have local delivery. They have to opt in by passing rules and regulations which will allow for Direct Delivery. And as a part of the Direct Delivery for these third-party contractors, there’s going to be certain age verification that they need to do have to, be alcohol awareness train and their escalating penalties that range from fines to three to 6,000 to suspensions and revocations. But remember this is all overseen by the local jurisdiction the local liquor boards. This is not something that’s overseen by the atcc.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: There are no questions. I’m going to move on to the next slide.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Thank this bill is actually very much in our wheelhouse. This is Senate Bill 1041. This is direct consumer delivery from Maryland manufacturers, and I’ll just kind of do a little bit of time traveling if you recall in 2020 during the pandemic then Governor Hogan issue an executive order which allowed Maryland manufacturers to Conduct consumer delivery and direct consumer shipping. This is when all of the wineries breweries and distilleries were closed for premise consumption. And in order to ensure that these businesses, had an economic Lifeline the governor signing executive order allowing manufacturers to ship and deliver.

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Thomas Akras -ATCC-: In the subsequent legislative years 2021 2022 2023 there was temporary legislation that was passed to allow Marilyn manufacturers to continue shipping and doing delivery to consumers in the state of Maryland this past legislative session the legislature took up 1041 because the Sunset date for Marilyn manufacturers to ship and deliver is going to be June 30th 2024 coming up in 10 days. And so the legislature considered a bill That originally would have allowed direct shipping and direct consumer delivery. That was not the bill that did passed only allows for Marilyn manufacturers to conduct to Consumer delivery.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: IE that cannot use a common carrier they can’t use FedEx they can’t use DHL they can’t use any of those common carriers to provide electric delivery services to customers now the industries that are greatly impacted by our breweries and distilleries their wineries have the ability to provide direct consumer shipping and so they can continue to ship but this bill allows for wineries breweries and distilleries to do direct to Consumer delivery, which means an employee of the manufacturer is going to be taking the product and delivering it to the consumer. There’s going to be certain checklists that they need to follow to ensure that the person purchasing is The purchaser is indeed 21 years or older.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: There are limits on the amount of product that can be sold to an address throughout the calendar year and we’re going to be pushing out and advisory as well as the applications and all of the associated documents that you’re going to need to fill out a review tomorrow. We’ve been in contact with the industry and have informed them of this we’re going to be visiting industry locations to kind of talk to stakeholders within the winery industry and Brewery industry kind of give them more information about this so there will be a marketing campaign and Outreach campaign to ensure that individuals do know what’s coming. We’re gonna work diligently with those Marilyn manufacturers to ensure that come to life first. They’re really is a smooth transition for direct consumer delivery. next slide, please.

Elizabeth Buck: Question for you is a consumer. And not say a liquor store or is it someone at home?

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: No consumer cannot be another licensed location has to be a person, 21 years and older. That’s a very good question commissioner Buck because what you don’t want is fourth tier that’s being created. That’s a Bob good question. Was that the information that you needed or do you have follow-up? I see commissioner.

Robert Poole: Hey, look what when you say employee, can you please define what you mean by employee? So if I have a company and I want to and I hire a contractor solely for the purpose of delivering or can they be a regular employee and other function?

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: They have to be an employee. The idea was that we’re not talking about third-party contractors. We’re not opening up the door or a doordash to be associated with wineries breweries and distilleries. You have to be employee of the company. You have to be at least 18 years old and you have to undergo a certain alcohol awareness training and on top of that there’s a documentary proof that you need to have to show the individual that you’re delivering. The alcoholic beverage Is indeed the percher is indeed 21 years and older and you’ve seen that identification.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: A problem two other bills in regards to our Marilyn manufacturers. The first is House Bill 1083 Senate bill one zero zero one this essentially wineries the definition and wineries were

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: back on one second wineries were defined as these manufacturing units which used Maryland grapes or fruit to produce product and there was a conversation in the legislature that stated that actually this definition was a little bit limiting because people wanted to produce onion wine, they want to produce dandelion one. They want to produce a lot of other wines that weren’t necessarily considered fruit or grapes. And so the conversation came. what terms now should we use to allow for these other kinds of products which the market demands to come into our three tier system particularly through our manufacturers. And so that’s where the term Maryland grown Agricultural Product came from. So now that term encompasses folks that do an onion wine. I want to say don’t quote me, but I want to say Lisa more does and onion line that they do is, seasonal line and that’s a product. that is really in Dem.

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Thomas Akras -ATCC-: and so that’s kind of the idea behind changing the term to Maryland grown agricultural products. And there was another component of this bill which allows for Maryland manufacturers currently can buy bulk wine from another Winery. Allen finished product would be in a bottle. It would then come to the manufacturer. This is wine that is made in bulk and another licensed facility in the state of Maryland and then it’s blended with the manufacturers own product that he or she makes so the current threshold is 25% this rage did to 75% so technical changes, but also technical changes that open it up the Maryland products that open up a wider range of Maryland products to Consumers across the state of Maryland.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: And then lastly there was the winery Vineyard Economic Development grant program. This is a program that was initiated a year or two ago through Department of Commerce where there are certain expenditures that particularly wineries can be reimbursed for if they do Capital expenditures to build out their manufacturing facilities. This is a technical change to allow for kind of Greater time period for reimbursement. Next slide please.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Before I jump in tobacco to anybody of any questions about those two other bills. seeing There were some pretty big tobacco bills that passed this year. I’ll actually start at the bottom and work my way up. The first is the public health services and protections act household 42 Senate bill to 20 this bill eliminated. The military exemption that allowed Maryland retailers to sell tobacco products to somebody who’s between the age of 18 and 21, but who had a valid military ID in Pardon me in 2019 the federal government changed the law there used to be a military exem Via the FDA that changed in 2019. So this bill essentially brings Maryland law in line with Federal requirements.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: The Clean Indoor Air Act House Bill 238 Senate Bill 244 this bill if we’re aware of the Clean Indoor Air Act, you cannot use smoke inside a public indoor area. I think restaurants bars. things of that nature this essentially adds vaping to that, list of prohibited use of tobacco products within an indoor public space and this bill also did something else this bill put a moratorium on alcoholic beverage licenses to tobacconists currently there. Are you tobacconists around the state of Maryland who have alcoholic beverage licenses generally speaking to back anist is a entity

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: business that we’re in 70% or more of their products are tobacco products think of cigar shop that you would go to and some of these license these have been able to obtain alcoholic beverage licenses because there’s a little bit of a loophole in the law, which says that if you can

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: You can have licenses if there’s an example if the use of the alcoholic beverage essentially is less than 30% of,…

Alan Silverstein: answer

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: your main product that you’re selling you could get a liquor license. So what this bill did and I’m being very general and I diving into the specific technical terms. But what this bill is it put a Prohibition on that and there’s going to be a study that’s going to be done over the next year or so which discusses the tobacconist ic Peace. So there’s a two year prohibition on any new to backness getting new alcoholic beverage licenses are in any tobacconists getting new alcoholic beverage licenses.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: The last one we’ll talk about is the tobacco retail modernization Act of 2024. This bill does a number of things but bigger things it increases the fees for the annual Tobacco products license, for example, if you were going to get a local tobacco products license would be 25 dollars normally that you go to your Clerk. You get the license now. It’s $300. they’re going to be required inspections that are to be done by the health departments for all of these license locations Health departments are at least going to have to inspect the location once if there’s another violation or by inspect, it could be health department inspection. It could be a attempted underage by inspection by

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Thomas Akras -ATCC-: a debt or something of that nature and this actually increases the penalties for individuals or for businesses that sell tobacco products to minors The District Court Canal suspend and revoke and when these cases are taken to court a lot of local jurisdictions will issue citations and the health department code local police departments will issue citations on the criminal code. So when these citations make their way to District Court has more leeway and actually sanctioning the license holder and the license itself that is very two other things with these bills. Tobacco products now have to be behind the counter essentially they can’t be behind the person selling the product. They can’t necessarily be out in front of the product. Now there’s an exception for tobacconists and folks

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Other tobacco products you can’t go into us a cigar shop per se and all the cigars are going to be behind the retail that’s not what was contemplated by this. This was more of convenience stores think of other stores where you don’t want, underage individuals having access to those tobacco products.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: And then lastly this requires a face transaction to ensure that state identifications are checked before sales. There’s a little bit of a loophole and some jurisdictions that there were certain kiosks. For example. I’m sure if you’ve gone to Royal Farms or if you’ve gone to other places people are moving to a key or McDonald’s even people are moving to the kiosk format. you’ll go to the kiosk will actually order the things that you were gonna order or buy things are gonna work and you can pay at the kiosity Lee. This will require face transaction, no matter what the circumstances is, if we’re dealing with the tobacco products. So retailers gonna have to come out they’re gonna have to say, Mr. Acuras and see your ID verified that you’re at your 21 years old you’re joining on your old now, you can purchase the product. So this closes and addresses any kind of issue that we’re seeing there. next one

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: It just a couple of things about cannabis and these are really light touches because I really want to concentrate on what they do with the atccc, when it comes to cannabis. we’ve got the Cannabis reflect.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: And this applies to alterations. This is House Bill 253. What hospital 253 does is it at least as applied to the atccc? It reduces the number of Commissioners from seven to five if you recall of the commission was expanded because at the time when the bill was written it was contemplated that the atccc in the MCA would be together under one house and the atcc commission. We do a lot of reporting and regards to cannabis. It’d be a role in The Advisory Council in relation to cannabis given the fact that our agencies are our separate and independent from each other the legislature contemplated the reason for the expansion and actually brought that back down because right now the Maryland cannabis Administration that oversees The Advisory Council, it really does the studies related to Canada. So that part of us down there’s another High Point.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: In household 253 which defines a cannabis nursery and we saw a little bit of gray area. Here we saw.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: A number of locations open up and they were selling seeds and they were selling plants but the plants had net yet matured. So there was a concern as to whether or not these were hemp products whether these were cannabis products this clarifies that in the law will go down to House Bill 272 and there were other things that House Bill 253 did last and I almost forgot this I was still 253 allows of the atcc to actually charge folks who are selling intoxicating THC products via citation and not a statement of criminal charges. So think about going down in the court commissioner filling out statement of charges, to move forward with these misdemeanor cases now, we can actually issue a citation. So those as they affect the atcc there were other changes in House Bill 253, but I think those are more in the MCA world

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Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Want to just concentrate on the atcc just briefly hostile 272 was another bill that passed IT addresses just generally speaking these straw owners. And so there’s more review that the MCA can do to ensure that applicants for these NCAA licenses are the actual applicants and not to straw owners lastly. There were some restrictions on Licensing locations for cannabis licenses. And again, this is overseen by the Maryland cannabis Administration certain restrictions at anyone that associated with the alcoholic beverage industry particularly. The retail industry is aware. There are existing restrictions on new package good stores that are going to be located within a place of worship or School. You see these, throughout the alcoholic beverage article and I think

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Of those bills and that is it for believe that that’s the last slide,…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: The idea behind this legislation was to align those similar restrictions that you see with alcoholic beverage’s marry up with cannabis. isn’t it Jessica? That’s the last slide for the Maryland general assembly recap. We can close out the slideshow if you have any questions or concern So we see a little bit of that here and these are a good examples. So you see the prohibition in regards to a licensed dispensary and playgrounds or recreation centers Library public parks. You also see a protest of renewal. That’s that third bullet point for those folks who are familiar with the retail industry protest of renewals when 10 or about any of the slides, please feel free. If not, we can move on to new business and I can inform the commission of some other things. Mr. Chair…

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Alan Silverstein: We’re ready to go to new business.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Thank you, First thing we want to talk about Fells Point enforcement.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: more residents within a certain area of the location file with the local liquor board a complaint essentially saying this place is acting like a nuisance can happen during renewal and…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: We have been active and engaged in regards to supporting the Baltimore City police department and…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: at that time if the complaint is properly filed the local board or…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Baltimore city Liquor Board in terms of having our agents positioned in Fell’s point to really hone in now we are …

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: commission will hear the case and determine whether or not the alcohol beverage license should be renewed in this case. It’s something very similar.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: since everybody in the commission knows we have limited jurisdiction when it comes to alcoholic beverage’s real really focusing and…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: 10 signatories making a complaint but this complaint will be heard by the Maryland cannabis Administration not a board or…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: honing on the sales of alcoholic beverage’s that are happening out in the streets.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: commission but MCA and there’s some distance requirements there too. So I wanted to just give a big broad overview.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Essentially. We see folks rulers that are walking around we see folks, selling alcoholic beverages out of their cars what we’re issuing our presentation or Traders licenses and our sales and use tax which is what we can do and that allows us to seize that product right we want to do is

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Address the issue which is facilitating access of these alcoholic beverages to underage persons. And so that is our role with the Baltimore City police department and I believe last week was the week before we issued a citation and recover 27 containers what you’re seeing is these baggies kind of like think pouches where folks will have these mixed drinks made they’ll bring them in couches with a punch straw and a folks will sell them out of pools. What we’re doing is working with Baltimore City Police Department working with licenses. Info’s Point who may see individuals that are doing this get information from Instagram get information where that folks that are pretty conspicuous about what it is that they’re doing and we’re really honing in our investigators on those folks and really making sure that in our

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Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Pain, we’re trying to support the Baltimore City police department and the local liquor board in the best way that we can to ensure limitation of these alcoholic beverages to underage individuals but I’ll say it, both from me being a former executive secretary of the liquor board Baltimore city and in my current position, it’s not the licensees that are out there selling, these alcoholic beverage’s to minors at the bars in the restaurants. what we’re seeing you individuals that are coming in from outside of Fell’s Point bringing these pre-manufactured made products into Fell’s point. So we’re here to support, the public safety. We’re here to support the licensed. In there if there are concerns that you’re seeing please contact us. we want to be. Of the solution and that’s the way we view the atcc.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: any questions

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: All We will it’s a little Bittersweet,…

Alan Silverstein: No.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: what I want to say, but I will say what I was going to say and then I’ll pass it to the chair.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: This is our last meeting with Barbara wall as a commissioner wall has been with the commission since the very beginning in January of 2021 during his time.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Establishments that are doing the right thing and so that is our role and…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: She was nominated commercial wall.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: we have a schedule throughout the summer.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: As of Vice chairs retained this position out her commission.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: We’re going to be helping and assisting supporting Baltimore City.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: We at the atcc from the agency perspective are thankful and…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: We have a schedule all the way up until the end of July if needs the cold Baltimore city that we will look at the facts on the ground as they are and…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: appreciative for her expertise and everything. She brought to the table in terms of the conversation regarding alcohol.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: making sure we need to extend that deployment into August and…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Tobacco products regulation. So we’re thankful for her contributions and…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: September we meet with Baltimore City.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: wish her in her new Endeavors,…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: I’d say every two weeks members of our field operations Bureau Baltimore City to discuss kind of a plan of action and…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: Mr. Chair.

Alan Silverstein: I just want to Echo what you’ve said, it’s been a pleasure to work with you and have you as a member of the commission as Vice chair.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: how we can best Baltimore city.

Alan Silverstein: We’re gonna miss you and…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: And not only we do this I say this at the outset knowledge would do this for Baltimore City.

Alan Silverstein: we wish you best of luck.

Barbara a: Thank you so much. It’s been a joy to work with all of…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: We do this in any jurisdiction. We are very familiar working Prince George’s County very familiar with work when Montgomery County very familiar with working with counties from Oakland Ocean City in terms of doing this enforcement.

Barbara a: And I really enjoyed being here and it’s amazing that it’s been four years now. I can’t believe that but I appreciate all that we’ve done together and I’ll be checking in occasionally to…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: So, if for folks…

Barbara a: how it goes after I’m going.

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: who are on the call if there are ISS that

Alan Silverstein: Thank you. Any other commission member of any comments?

Elizabeth Buck: I think you’ve been wonderful and…

Eric Morrissette: you guys

Elizabeth Buck: a blessing for us and I’m really grateful and I also want to know how did you get out of it when I still got two years to go?

Barbara a: politics

Eric Morrissette: Know I just want to can you guys hear me? I’m not sure if my sound is working…

Alan Silverstein: Yes again, Eric.

Eric Morrissette: but I might like my airport gate right now and I didn’t want the moment to pass it to say how much I’m gonna miss you Barbara and appreciate your thoughtful missing collaboration and all you brought to say that he said and so Thank you and we’ll still stay in touch, but I’ll miss you here.

Barbara a: Thank you so much.

Robert Poole: I’d like to Second Eric’s comment.

Barbara a: I appreciate it.

Alan Silverstein: We have a new member that will be joining us next month and…

Thomas Akras -ATCC-: that’s

Alan Silverstein: a hurricane that cont contacted me today. We’ve had a brief conversation. We’re going to have another conversation this week and look forward to Come on board. Anybody else have any other business? If not, I take a motion for adjournment.

Elizabeth Buck: so moved

Robert Poole: second

Alan Silverstein: The second. All right, all those in favor AI I pose same sign. you next month on July 18th.

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Elizabeth Buck: And bye.

James E. Hock Jr -State Police-: You next month everyone.

Alan Silverstein: books, July 18,… excuse me Take care.